Comments on: Star Trek: No Matter How Good It Is, It Will Never Quite Be Like It Was http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/ Tech, Games, Comics, Movies. We Promise Not to Tell. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:06:02 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: lostepic http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-890 lostepic Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:44:59 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-890 @anon76: One can only hope that you are right. When I heard from Abrams very lips that his intent for his Star Trek was to bring new fans and revitalize the franchise, I thought well that’s great and all so long as you don't drastically change the roots of the series. Then I saw the TV spot. I hope your right that it’s a "hyper-meta-coded play" to the "nerdcore", Abrams and co. are nerds themselves that I think they would do such a obscure reference. But one would think they would have Nimoy say it so it harkens back to the commercial. Frankly, I never saw the commercial, nor was aware of the line. And considering the line "This is not your Father's Oldsmobile" has little reference to any other Star Trek references I find it hard to believe that Abrams and Co. were making a obscure reference of a line that is not necessarily synonymous with Star Trek lore. @anon76: One can only hope that you are right. When I heard from Abrams very lips that his intent for his Star Trek was to bring new fans and revitalize the franchise, I thought well that's great and all so long as you don't drastically change the roots of the series. Then I saw the TV spot. I hope your right that it's a "hyper-meta-coded play" to the "nerdcore", Abrams and co. are nerds themselves that I think they would do such a obscure reference. But one would think they would have Nimoy say it so it harkens back to the commercial. Frankly, I never saw the commercial, nor was aware of the line. And considering the line "This is not your Father's Oldsmobile" has little reference to any other Star Trek references I find it hard to believe that Abrams and Co. were making a obscure reference of a line that is not necessarily synonymous with Star Trek lore.

]]> By: anon76 http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-888 anon76 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:53:28 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-888 @lostepic: Isn't "This is not your Father's Star Trek" just a play on the Oldsmobile commercial with Nimoy and daugher "This is not your Father's Oldsmobile"? I think that rather than a play away from the fan-base it's a hyper-meta-coded play to the most hardcore (nerdcore?). @lostepic: Isn't "This is not your Father's Star Trek" just a play on the Oldsmobile commercial with Nimoy and daugher "This is not your Father's Oldsmobile"? I think that rather than a play away from the fan-base it's a hyper-meta-coded play to the most hardcore (nerdcore?).

]]> By: Church http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-884 Church Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:08:53 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-884 @RB3.0: I hear you, but after seeing the last trailer (the McCoy one) I'm ready for an old-time revival, myself. @RB3.0: I hear you, but after seeing the last trailer (the McCoy one) I'm ready for an old-time revival, myself.

]]> By: lostepic http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-880 lostepic Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:32:38 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-880 @republibotthreepointoh: As I said before I will still see Abrams Star trek but I vehemently disagree with the use of an ad that flashed several scenes before you and then in big words say "This is not your Fathers Star Trek". Now they just alienated their fan base. With out the fan base the movie would flop. If everyone who even likes Star Trek on any level didn’t see the movie no one would but the critics. I was just talking to my friends the other day, when wolverine comes out on the same day as Star Trek and for the life of me I couldn’t remember, but responded "if they do I would rather see star trek and wait until the next week to see wolverine." Friends’ response, "that’s because you’re a star trek geek. No you’re just a geek" Agreed with the DS9 and Voyager. Enterprise had great potential but never seemed to get off the ground for me. I still saw Nemesis in the theater despite the reviews. I love Picard’s character that much. @republibotthreepointoh: As I said before I will still see Abrams Star trek but I vehemently disagree with the use of an ad that flashed several scenes before you and then in big words say "This is not your Fathers Star Trek". Now they just alienated their fan base. With out the fan base the movie would flop. If everyone who even likes Star Trek on any level didn't see the movie no one would but the critics. I was just talking to my friends the other day, when wolverine comes out on the same day as Star Trek and for the life of me I couldn't remember, but responded "if they do I would rather see star trek and wait until the next week to see wolverine." Friends' response, "that's because you're a star trek geek. No you're just a geek"
Agreed with the DS9 and Voyager. Enterprise had great potential but never seemed to get off the ground for me. I still saw Nemesis in the theater despite the reviews. I love Picard's character that much.

]]> By: republibotthreepointoh http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-869 republibotthreepointoh Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:53:36 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-869 Here's the deal: My experiences with Trek probably paralel most of you out there with religion: Brought up in it, love it, excited by it, hit college and then start to question things - fundamentally stupid-seeming things, like why no one ever thought to take a camera along on an Away Team, or even include one in a communicator, or the flagrant immorality of the prime directive - and you start to wander away. By the time you get out of college it's got little to do with your life, and no particular relevance beyond nostalgia and a feeling of safety, so you continue to try it out now and again, but it feels passionless and empty, and you realize that you've just lost the faith. For me, that happened between the 3rd season of DS9 and the 2nd season of Voyager. I just could not force myself to give a frack about Trek, and though it lingered for a decade or so after that, I never watched it. And now they've got this paralell-universe reboot thing with these great previews, and how dare they do that? How dare they make me question my atheism on the subject? How dare they make me feel all squiggly inside? How dare they make Trek look like something that wouldn't make me yawn? I'm still not going to see it, though. I've got principles. Here's the deal: My experiences with Trek probably paralel most of you out there with religion: Brought up in it, love it, excited by it, hit college and then start to question things - fundamentally stupid-seeming things, like why no one ever thought to take a camera along on an Away Team, or even include one in a communicator, or the flagrant immorality of the prime directive - and you start to wander away. By the time you get out of college it's got little to do with your life, and no particular relevance beyond nostalgia and a feeling of safety, so you continue to try it out now and again, but it feels passionless and empty, and you realize that you've just lost the faith. For me, that happened between the 3rd season of DS9 and the 2nd season of Voyager. I just could not force myself to give a frack about Trek, and though it lingered for a decade or so after that, I never watched it.

And now they've got this paralell-universe reboot thing with these great previews, and how dare they do that? How dare they make me question my atheism on the subject? How dare they make me feel all squiggly inside? How dare they make Trek look like something that wouldn't make me yawn?

I'm still not going to see it, though. I've got principles.

]]> By: Kemper http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-868 Kemper Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:15:41 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-868 @ eduardojencarelli - Thanks for the episode title. @ eduardojencarelli - Thanks for the episode title.

]]> By: anon76 http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-867 anon76 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:26:29 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-867 Cool, so that's the USS Bozeman episode. Might not mean much to you lot, but Bozeman happens to be my home town, as it is to Mr. Braga, and the hailing the USS Bozeman clip is run incessantly as station ID for one of the local radio stations. Braga also gave a shout out to the home town in Star Trek: First Contact, as Bozeman was the location for the first Human-Vulcan encounter. And knowing that? Well, knowing that is one of the things that gives me (take notes Mr. Grossman): Nerd Cred. Stick that in your high-and-mighty PKD pipe and smoke it! Cool, so that's the USS Bozeman episode. Might not mean much to you lot, but Bozeman happens to be my home town, as it is to Mr. Braga, and the hailing the USS Bozeman clip is run incessantly as station ID for one of the local radio stations. Braga also gave a shout out to the home town in Star Trek: First Contact, as Bozeman was the location for the first Human-Vulcan encounter. And knowing that? Well, knowing that is one of the things that gives me (take notes Mr. Grossman): Nerd Cred. Stick that in your high-and-mighty PKD pipe and smoke it!

]]> By: Church http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-865 Church Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:17:38 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-865 "You need to write more Star Trek/Philip K Dick/Star Wars blog entries! " . So say we all. "You need to write more Star Trek/Philip K Dick/Star Wars blog entries! "
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So say we all.

]]> By: gmiverson http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-864 gmiverson Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:54:51 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-864 Dennitzio: Yeah but all we'd get from Comic Book Guy is: Worst. Post. Ever. Probably because he didn't write it first. Dennitzio: Yeah but all we'd get from Comic Book Guy is: Worst. Post. Ever. Probably because he didn't write it first.

]]> By: dennitzio http://techland.com/2009/04/24/star-trek-no-matter-how-good-it-is-it-will-never-quite-be-like-it-was/comment-page-1/#comment-863 dennitzio Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:36:56 +0000 http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/?p=1453#comment-863 Not to get to meta here, but this has got to be the most hard-core nerdiest discussion ever on Nerd World. You need to write more Star Trek/Philip K Dick/Star Wars blog entries! I can almost see Comic Book Guy chiming in. However, I did have to look up who Ronald D Moore is. Not to get to meta here, but this has got to be the most hard-core nerdiest discussion ever on Nerd World. You need to write more Star Trek/Philip K Dick/Star Wars blog entries! I can almost see Comic Book Guy chiming in. However, I did have to look up who Ronald D Moore is.

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