I couldn't really call myself a scholar of the Terminator franchise. Mostly what distinguishes me from other Terminator fans is my unusual ability to enjoy and re-watch T3: Rise of the Machines. This is partly though not entirely accounted for by my lingering celebrity crush on Claire Danes. (True story: I used to live with someone who was a TA for Claire Danes at Yale, and we had a message from her on our answering machine tearfully pleading for an extension ... it's not a really a story. But it is true.)
We already have a review of Terminator Salvation up, which I agree with pretty much completely -- basically there are some kick-ass action sequences, but the movie's human story is a near-total failure. Also, I know the Terminator movies are especially fond of weaving this Web of internal references, but this must be the single most densely allusive movie ever made.
Notes follow, more or less in chronological order as they occurred to me. Also there are mild spoilers:
-- Helena Bonham Carter = random! Because Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes left her humiliation tragically incomplete? Seriously, how weird to see a big-time Merchant-Ivory thespian in the cast.
-- Early on you get Christian Bale shoving a chopper pilot out of his seat. One of a long series of visual quotes from T2 ...
-- Connor's chopper crashes, upside-down, in a dust-cloud ... and he's OK! Gentlest helicopter crash ever.
-- It ain't Terminator till we've seen a naked dude. Though this may be our first moment of actual on-screen man-gear in the franchise.
-- More references: that's the road from the end of the first movie. And there's a dude crushing a Terminator skull! And is that the truck from T3? Is this movie entirely remixed from shots from the earlier movies? Yes. Yes it is.
-- The opening credits should have prepared me for this, but oh my God it's Chekhov.
-- I'm pretty sure I suffer from borderline prosopagnosia, but still: I am having a hell of time telling John Connor and Marcus Wright apart. If only they hadn't been given the exact same amount of stubble.
-- Again, I should have been ready for this, but oh my God Chekhov is Batman's daddy.
-- Bryce Dallas Howard does a pretty convincing Claire Danes impression. Maybe that was her on my answering machine.
-- Half of this movie is about John Connor, and the other half is about the mysterious Marcus Wright. People are awfully incurious as to who Marcus Wright is. Maybe there are a lot of people wandering around in the post-apocalypse who don't know what year it is, and haven't noticed that the world has been taken over by robots. But still.
-- I'm trying to put my finger on what exactly doesn't work about this movie. It jumps around too much: the earlier T movies were basically character studies, about a small group of people thrown together in an intense way, and how they interact. This one's got too many characters. Plus it's sort of leaden and humorless. The earlier movies were grim, but all the pop-culture references lightened the mood -- they didn't take themselves too seriously. The fact that they had Schwarzenegger, a walking sight-gag, on screen most of the time helped with this. This one takes itself too seriously. It's almost as if it's actually trying to warn us about the threat of future world domination by cyborgs.
-- That said, I want to give T4 full marks for the action stuff. Even though the incessant referencing of T2 is almost monotonous at this point (motorcycle off bridge from T2 FTW!) The audio alone is astounding. Plus it's the first one of the movies that really takes seriously the question of what a malevolent global software network would build if it could build anything. Why would it stick to bipedal androids? It probably would build huge headless giants and angry riderless motorcycles.
-- Though boo to the designers for thinking SkyNet would build human-scale, human-navigable factories. Surely they wouldn't bother with hallways and doors and such.
-- What is it with future dystopias and little-kid sidekicks? It was lame in Road Warrior and Waterworld, and it's lame here. And this is speaking as someone who actually has a little-kid sidekick in real life.
-- Marcus Wright (I guess Marcus Fenix was taken) has got to get his Australian accent under control. Doesn't really suit an L.A. gangbanger, or whatever he's supposed to be.
-- The references keep stacking up. The people-moving bins from War of the World. The missile-takes-out-a-bridge shot from True Lies.
-- I can't quite tell if Marcus is re-enacting the 1984 Apple ad when he busts a monitor toward the end of the movie. (Maybe the Apple Tablet will turn out to be SkyNet.) No wait, I can, he was. And hang on -- did he just take out his restraining bolt?
-- The T-800's run on red matter from Star Trek! It all fits together.
-- I am not going to tell you how the movie ends. But it is literally and most unfortunately heartwarming.







@ Church - Thanks. I needed that.
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@ rosseau - I'm not trying to convince everyone to watch BSG. I have a very narrow focus. I just enjoy browbeating a certain writer who has a blog called 'Nerd World' and stubbornly refuses to watch one of the best reviewed sci-fi TV shows ever made. Even after he himself called it a 'triumph' in his Star Trek write-up. *ahem*
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And just for the record, I am not a blind BSG fanatic. The last two seasons had some problems, and it's obvious that they made stuff up as they went along. (Which Ron Moore freely admits.) rb3.0 has a good point that the 4th season was probably too long. The finale didn't satisfy a lot of fans. (I liked it, but it wasn't perfect.) But even at it's worst, there was always a great moment lurking around the corner.
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Plus, hot killer robots in slinky red dresses? What's not to like?
Kemper
May. 27, 2009 09:57:am
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Yeah, BSG would have been even better if they halved the number of episodes. Aside from the (short) first season, each one has a bunch of filler in the middle that didn't really need to be there. Although they probably helped pay for the cool CGI stuff in the good ones.
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I just saw on Twitter that Lev actually liked Spielberg's "AI," so I'm wondering if all our Sturm und Drang about BSG is worth it after all. Pearls before swine, and all that.
Church
May. 27, 2009 11:32:am
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@ Kemper - thanks!
@ Church - I hadn't thought of that, but it is an interesting notion that Galactica was actually better before it had a more traditional season. If they'd done 4 years and 52 episodes, it probably would have been a lot better than 5 years (by default) and 72 episodes. That's kind of an inherent problem in the franchise, interestingly. The *original* galactica wasn't intended to be a weekly series - it was intended to be a series of 4 or 5 "Movies of the week" per year. They made the decision to go weekly after the first 2 of these "Movies" were already filmed, and the third was half-done, and the show was never really up to the demands of a weekly production.
I dunno. I don't think we've seen the definitive version of Galactica yet. Hm...maybe I should do something about that on Republibot.com...?
republibotthreepointoh
May. 27, 2009 13:07:pm
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lack of perfect pace and implimintation of characters and story arcs is the death of any story. Reading that the last season of BSG was....not up to par of what it should is disheartening as I am about to watch it.
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Great point on B5. That says it all. If a show is pushed to continue beyond its life or is resurrected it starts to loose the magic and flar that made us love it. Monk, dare I say the Simpsons, ER, even Law and Order has suffered that. There are exceptions but few.
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I liked AI even though I recall many people and critics not liking it. Aside from the fact that it was to be a Kubrick film and Spielberg, who was originally only a producer on the project, picked up the pieces and directed the film to the best he could the way Kubrick would, after his death.
lostepic
May. 28, 2009 14:21:pm
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AI was a good movie that was ruined by its coda. That whole "We bent time so your mommie could come back for an evening" made no logical sense and undercut everything else that happened before. Up to that point, it felt *basically* like a Kubric movie. That happy ending felt tacked on and tasted to me of Spielberg brand cheeze (TM).
I think a show *can* have a ludicrously long run and still stay vital, but it's got to figure out a way to reinvent itself about every five years or so. The Simpsons is the classic and best example of this. Stargate: SG1 did a really good job of that, too.
Incidentally, we've got an interesting article on my site about what B5 set out to be and how it reinvented itself after the first season when they realized 'what they set out to be' didn't quite work. If you're interested in that sort of thing.
republibotthreepointoh
May. 28, 2009 16:03:pm
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first. the mom was cloned from a lock of hair he had and she couldnt live long because the process wasnt perfect. That wasnt dumb as much as him "dying" at the end of the day on his own after being with her. It was depressing, and anti speilberg. Of course nothing is as dumb as almost everyone I know when they saw the movie saying, "so whats with the aliens in the end of the movie?"
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True. But I would dare say that Simpsons struggles at this more than most. SG1 survived because SCIFI channel picked it up and revamped it when showtime dumped it.
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Oh and the original BSG had monkeys. Yes. It was a theorized plot point that the Cylons were really Apes in a suit. What can I say "Planet of the Apes" was big so everyone was doing it.
lostepic
Jun. 4, 2009 05:53:am
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The perfect tragic ending to that movie is him pinned under the ocean within sight of the "Blue Fairy." Everything from that point on is gratuitious and pointless. Also, obviously fully-grown adult clones with all the memories intact - that's just goofy. I'd accept time travel before I'd accept that, it's just too laborious a plot device.
The original BSG used a trained chimp named "Shirley" in a robo-teddybear suit to portray "Muffett the Daggit," which was Boxey's pet. This seemed like a good idea at the time, but the chimp proved to be hard to work with, prone to freakouts and crapping in the suit, and they started to phase "Muffett" out after Shirley bit Noah Hathaway on the set one day.
The Cylons themselves were always stunt men in armor. When the show started filming, the script said they were reptilian aliens in armor, but then the network balked about killing so many aliens, so they hurriedly re-wrote it so that the Cylons were machines (in armor).
republibotthreepointoh
Jun. 4, 2009 07:31:am
at 07:31:am